Gravis Inkasso Gmbh

Trading From Vienna, Austria

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Recording Phone Calls

Claims made by people in dispute with the guides as to what was said to them on the phone cannot be used in evidence. For this reason we suggest that you record telephone conversations you have with the debt collection companies and include them with your official complaints.

Laws regarding recording of telephone conversations appear to vary from country to country, for this reason we advise you make it clear that you intend to record the conversation. If the person at the other end is unwilling to be recorded, please inform them that you will not continue and that they must contact you by post

Messages left on answerphones can be used in your complaint without the need to seek consent.

StopECG is interested in hearing your recordings, please Send them in .wav format
No Licence to Operate!
According to the European Advertising Standards Alliance
http://www.easa-alliance.org/
Gravis have been reported for operating without the relevant licence and may be taken to court. Note, April 2006, it has been reported to that Gravis may now have the relevant licence

Court action might lead to attempts to recover money that Gravis had obtained without license. If you have paid money to Gravis under duress, please file a complaint to the address below and note that you are requesting that they attempt to recover your payment.

CONTENTS

  1. Company Info
  2. Advice if you are Receiving demands for money
  3. Council Regulation (EC) No. 44/2001
  4. Research and background
Company Info

This page will be filled out as we garner new information, it is now clear if this new company are working alongside Premium Recovery AG who remain active. It is not clear how the European City Guide's so called contracts are being shared between these companies.

The first letters arrived on the desks of UK Businesses in dispute with the ECG on 19th March 2003, giving the following contact information

GRAVIS Inkasso gmbh,
International Dept Recovery
Lindengasse 41
PO Box 205
1070 Vienna
Austria

Tel: 43 1 521 87 0
Fax: 43 1 521 87 20
Email: info@gravis-austria.com
www.gravis-austria.com

The Return address on their Envelopes is:
CC International SPI AT VIE CH-8058 Zurich

The Bank details on their letters are as follows. (Last Checked April 2006)

Bank Bank Burgenland AG
Iban AT385100091017403403
Beneficiary Gravis Inkasso GmbH
Account No 91017403403
Swift Code EHBBAT2E
Reference-No 112-0547-192256

If you feel that your grievances with Gravis may interest them, you can contact the head office of this bank at info@bank-bgld.at

Previously used (Up to at least 2005)
Bank Austria - Creditanstalt Wien
Iban AT511200051524254003
Beneficiary Gravis Inkasso GmbH
Account No 51524254003
Swift Code BKAUATWW
Reference-No 112-0410-035717


So far we have the names of 2 Employees, One appears to be Indian, the Other English

On 31st March 2004 the website was still a holding page, suggesting that this is a new company established to work for the European City Guide rather than an established firm taking on the European City Guide's Work. This would follow the same pattern as that seen with Premium Recovery AG.
By Late June 2004 they had a basic website In English and German at http://www.gravis-austria.com/.
This page was never very professional and in late 2005 it was pulled. When checked (30th Oct 2005) the domain was still active but the frontpage was blank, however by 20th April 2006 the page had returned though it remains very basic.

Advice if you are being pressured

The pressure exerted on people by Gravis is not as extreme as the tactics of Premium Recovery AG, however very direct threats of court action are regularly made. In every case we have followed the threats have passed without court action occurring.

If you are unhappy with your encounter Gravis, or with the contract you originally signed, Collect all correspondence you have with this company and please file complaints with the relevant authority in your country.

Please also complain directly to the Austrian authorities

Federal Ministry of Economic Affairs and Labour
Martina Brandstätter
Bundesminister für Wirtschaft und Arbeit
Abteilung C1/4
A-1011 Wien, Stubenring 1
Austria
E-Mail: post@c14.bmwa.gv.at

Please copy your letter to:
Department for Competition
BMWA
Abteilung C1/6
Dampfschiffstraße 4
1030 Wien
Austria

Please also copy your letter to:
Dr. Manfred Pichelmayer,
Osterreichischer Werberat (OWR),
c/o Wirtschaftskammer Wien,
Schwartzenbergplatz 14,
A - 1040,
VIENNA,
AUSTRIA

StopECG recommend Carbon Copying this letter to the Austrian Embassy in your home Country. The website of the London Embassy is: http://austria.embassyhomepage.com/ UK Residents can complain by email to Burger Scheidlin who is head of white-collar crime in Austria. maximilian.burger-scheidlin@wko.at
There are links at the bottom of the page for the addresses of Embassies in other cities

advice for residents of the European Union who are in dispute with Gravis Inkasso Gmbh Residents of the European Union are asked to send a copy of the complaint to their MEP (Member European Parliament). If you do not know who your MEP is, click the one of the links below and look them up. You may find that you are represented by more than one MEP, if so, please contact them all!!
http://www.europarl.eu.int/ ALL EU Countries please navigate to your country
http://www.writetothem.com/ UK Only (enter your postcode, you can then fax direct from the webform!)
http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/MembersMain.htm UK Only (for postal addresses)
Please also sign the Petition the European Parliament


Whenever filing official complaints, we recommend you keep your letters short, polite and factual. It may help prosecutors if you explain why you feel the original document was misleading

Please include copies of all Correspondence you have had with the guide and with their agents. You should send high quality photocopies and should keep your original correspondence on file. If you have lost or destroyed any documents please note this in your letter of complaint.


Both Gravis Inkasso Gmbh and Premium Recovery AG have been reported as citing court decisions in favour of the guides. If they use this tactic on you it is important that you request the full court papers for any such decision, please forward these to stopscamguides@yahoo.co.uk

Details on this company
the gravis-inkasso web domain is registered to

BAULESCH, Romain
Gravis Inkasso GmbH
Lindengasse 41
A-1070 Wien
Austria

rbaulesch@vip.at
Tel: +43.1521870
Fax: +43.15218720


A google search on BAULESCH, Romain and/or rbaulesch@vip.at reveals a very colourful character who thinks he is in Napoleon's Italian Army.

He plays the part of Generalmajor Gottfried Maria Freiherr von Baulesch, rbaulesch@vip.at with a picture at
http://www.e-n-s.org/GeneralZuPferdMarengo.jpg

Indeed Romain BAULESCH, is the President of the Central European Napoleonic Society
Hofstattgasse 8
A-1180 Wien
rbaulesch@vip.at
http://www.e-n-s.org/italienarmee/about1.html gives information about the society.

More images of him at:
http://web.vip.at/fa1809/fa/events/moed96/images/modlin~1.jpg
http://web.vip.at/fa1809/fa/events/moed96/images/modling3.jpg
http://web.vip.at/fa1809/fa/events/moed96/images/imagem~3.jpg


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